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$2.1
million lunch with Berkshire Hathaway
chief: "Warren will give him his money's
worth (Excerpt)
Examiner.com
- June 26, 2009
by William Freehling
Examiner:
What did you two talk about during the lunch?
JT: We covered dozens of topics. Warren is a highly intelligent
polymath, and he has a fabulous memory. His wide base of general
knowledge and life experience enable him to add interesting color
to almost any topic. He switches topics quickly, and he picked
up speed as the afternoon progressed. It is mental work to keep
up with Warren. He will go as fast as you can handle.
Warren
is proud of the fact that he has created wealth for his shareholders,
his long-term partners. By the time Donald Othmer,
a chemical engineer, died in 1995, his investment in Berkshire
Hathaway was worth around $750 million. [Warren Buffett] has
a keen sense of the enormous responsibility of managing the hard
earned
money
shareholder entrusted to him. The idea of building value is not
only wholesome, it is life-affirming. During our meeting, I got
the sense of what a totally decent person Warren is. The blow-up
in the global financial markets was just starting to occur,
and it was partly due to malicious mischief. Contrasting Warren
Buffett's philosophy with the shenanigans of phony assets combined
with inexcusable leverage and cover-ups was all the more poignant
as the crisis unfolded.
I
mention some of the many topics we discussed in my book, [Dear
Mr. Buffett] but my personal take-aways
have to do with Warren's sane approach
to the markets. We hear a lot of black swan quackery making claims
that Warren Buffett's investment style is dead. Yet, the "black
swan" funds have poor track records, albeit that has not
been widely reported, and in fact, it has been inaccurately reported.
It is nothing more than a PR stunt. If one wants to buy insurance,
i.e., put options, one does not have to pay 2% in fees and 20%
of the upside to a mediocre manager with no exit strategy. The
funds may have one good year followed by years of consistently
losing money. The loss of that money is permanent value destruction.
More than that, what kind of person wants to spend their entire
life curled up in a corner with their fists balled up in front
of their faces in a defensive posture? It's a ridiculous way
to spend your life, and you create nothing of value in the economy
other than buying insurance. No wonder they have not held onto
their insurance payouts and have poor track records.
When
one invests in value, there is no permanent destruction of value.
Stock prices
may go up or down, but the underlying
companies have value, and they make products that people want
and need. These companies keep generating earnings and value
and when the economy recovers, they are positioned to soar. Warren
doesn't distinguish between "value" and "growth" companies
because they are one in the same to a value investor. He wants
to buy companies at a fair price--better yet, at a cheap price--and
he wants to buy companies that have a potential to grow.
While
it is true that Berkshire Hathaway may not achieve the high returns
of its
past due to its enormous size, it will continue
to achieve future satisfactory returns. Investors focus more
on book value and other metrics rather than the fickle market
price. People said value investing was dead in the 1970's when
Berkshire Hathaway's share price was down two years in a row
(more than 15% for the fiscal year then ending March 1974, and
down more than 35% for March 1975). The share price was $51 on
March 31, 1975, down from $93 on March 31, 1973. Even if you
had "bad timing," and had bought the stock at $93,
you would be a happy investor today (BRKA closed yesterday [June
15, 2009] at $86,705). Long-term value investing works if you
know the principles
of finance and know how to value a company.
The philosophy of value investing seems very healthy to me.
One generates value by investing in society and creating permanent
value in the economy.
Another thing that struck me about Warren is that he does not
dwell on past mistakes. He is not a brooder. He freely admits
that mistakes will be made, and that you may never figure out
what complicated mix of psychology led you to make them. The
key is to avoid making big ones. This is where the idea of building
a margin of safety comes in. He skews the probability of success
in his favor by limiting the probability of disaster and increasing
the probability of a high future gain. He doesn't rely on random
luck, he is using conditional probabilities. Given that he knows
the principles of creating value, he has stacked the odds in
his favor of a satisfactory outcome. No one can guarantee you
a successful outcome, unexpected events will occur, and mistakes
will be made. Knowing all of that, one can still improve one's
odds, and Warren Buffett excels at stacking the deck in favor
of his investors.
Examiner: What are some things that you have observed about WEB
during the lunch or subsequent interactions that the public doesn't
know about him?
JT: Warren does not talk down to people, and he doesn't try
to impress people with his intelligence. As a result, many people
underestimate him. For example, one reporter wasted an interview
with Warren by repeating a myth that he doesn't carry a cell
phone. Warren whipped out his cell phone and joked that Alexander
Graham Bell had given it to him. He would never belittle someone
for wasting his time (and theirs), but he also won't tell the
reporter what to ask. He can [be] like a Wimbledon winner playing
tennis with a child. He won't slam the ball at the feet of an
inexperienced player. But when he meets a skilled player, he
increases his level of play to match the other player.
Warren's command of derivatives and financial principles is
deep, but his explanations are so elegantly simplified that experts
sometimes deceive themselves into thinking he is not as smart
as they are. I call it the "I am a genius, and you're not" syndrome.
Warren doesn't suffer from that. When Warren appears on television,
he makes things sound simple. When he hesitates, it is as if
he is translating complex material to simple language for public
consumption. A less secure man might try to impress the audience
with jargon or with details. He is not competing with anyone
else, and he respects his audience. I would like to be more like
him when I grow up.
END OF
EXCERPT
Janet
Tavakoli is the president of Tavakoli Structured Finance,
a Chicago-based firm that provides consulting to financial institutions
and institutional investors. Ms. Tavakoli has more than 20 years
of experience in senior investment banking positions, trading,
structuring and marketing structured financial products. She
is a former adjunct professor of derivatives at the University
of Chicago's Graduate School of Business. She is the author of: Credit
Derivatives & Synthetic Structures (John
Wiley & Sons,
1998, 2001), Structured
Finance & Collateralized Debt Obligations (John
Wiley & Sons, 2008), and
Dear
Mr. Buffett: What An Investor Learns 1,269 Miles
From Wall Street (John
Wiley & Sons
January 2009)
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